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cvoss 40 minutes ago [-]
The document in question itself may be interesting as a historical artifact, which the article kind of gets into at the end. But the headline and opening paragraphs are just complicit in amplifying low-quality online discourse, about a decade-old topic no less. It just shows that 1) rage-machines are silly, and 2) Daily Mail is not a reputable outlet. Skip.
atonse 41 minutes ago [-]
Not that I want to be seen blindly defending the CIA's actions or anything, but the article's saying that people accusing the CIA of keeping this hidden in a vault for 60 years.
Yet, the article has been out in the open for 12 years and people still didn't notice it. So why are we assuming malice in the first case when we can assume that, like it wasn't discovered in the open, it was probably just stuck in a vault and nobody knew it existed closed either.
So this just sounds like "we found one obscure document that had an interesting detail..." and is trying to extend a whole thing out of it?
I can imagine that these kinds of things will all slowly come to light with AI-led discovery now.
mhitza 1 hours ago [-]
Here's a different link that works for me (Dailymail might be blocking VPN use, as it doesn't wotk for me)
Whenever you talk about potential cures for cancer, also remember this xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1217/
It also sounds like there's nothing in the document that's not already been investigated for cancer treatments in the past 50 years. The "potential" in "potential cure for cancer" is doing unusually heavy lifting here.
b112 42 minutes ago [-]
It probably is. But what about when it was classified? Was it known that this research was ineffective then? So the potential was there, for great harm.
"Hmm. This could be a cure for cancer! We don't know, but we'll classify it all the same..."
Of course, almost certainly everyone involved is long gone by now.
tokai 40 minutes ago [-]
Health articles from Daily Mail are maybe some of the least trustworthy scribblings put to print.
Legend2440 42 minutes ago [-]
TL;DR the CIA stole an old soviet research paper from the 1950s about cancer. But the soviets didn’t have a cure either, and weren’t really any farther along than the Americans.
The mechanisms they describe (Warburg effect) are not secret and have been part of mainstream cancer research since the 1930s. They’ve tried a bunch of drugs that starve tumors of glycogen, but none of them work very well.
The backlash is just conspiracy garbage from the usual nutjobs.
Bender 2 hours ago [-]
CIA faces furious backlash after hidden document with potential cure for cancer is declassified after 60 years
Yet, the article has been out in the open for 12 years and people still didn't notice it. So why are we assuming malice in the first case when we can assume that, like it wasn't discovered in the open, it was probably just stuck in a vault and nobody knew it existed closed either.
So this just sounds like "we found one obscure document that had an interesting detail..." and is trying to extend a whole thing out of it?
I can imagine that these kinds of things will all slowly come to light with AI-led discovery now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/cia-faces-furious-bac...
It also sounds like there's nothing in the document that's not already been investigated for cancer treatments in the past 50 years. The "potential" in "potential cure for cancer" is doing unusually heavy lifting here.
"Hmm. This could be a cure for cancer! We don't know, but we'll classify it all the same..."
Of course, almost certainly everyone involved is long gone by now.
The mechanisms they describe (Warburg effect) are not secret and have been part of mainstream cancer research since the 1930s. They’ve tried a bunch of drugs that starve tumors of glycogen, but none of them work very well.
The backlash is just conspiracy garbage from the usual nutjobs.